"U. S. Grant's Failed Presidency" by Phil Leigh

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Fine, you tell us all how you can make informed comments on a book you haven't read.
By the actions of its advocates, just like any other book.

In addition, say read the book is the debate fallacy of appeal to authority because instead of evidence we get the book as the authority.
 

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Wait... here a section from one of the book's 5star reviews on Amazon... I have always wonder how Grant was able to travel around the world, lose over 250,000 in a con, own a home in New York and New Jersey, gamble in poker games in CT. , and went to the( he had his own box) horse track and Cancio in Long Beach, NJ. All I know about his income, he had checks coming in from being a general and presidential. I do not think he was paid enough to do all the things I just listed off.

Snip... review of Leigh book ...

Grant himself exhibited dubious standards which, were a politician to act similarly today would surely end their career and possibly result in prison time. In 1866, prior to entering public service, Grant accepted a $30,000 home in Washington, D.C., raised through public subscription that netted the general $100,000 in all.

When Grant was ready to move into the White House, he initially agreed to a deal to sell the home for $40,000. Treasury Secretary designee Alexander Stewart led a subscription to purchase the home for $65,000 for Union General William T. Sherman. When the money was raised, Grant turned his back on the agreement with the first buyer and pocketed the $35,000 difference, according to Leigh.

Six months into his first term, Grant accepted a vacation home on the New Jersey coast. The 27-room structure cost $35,000, money raised by seven donors, including a Philadelphia newspaper owner and the owner of the Pullman Co., which manufactured railroad cars, according to Leigh.
 

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By the actions of its advocates, just like any other book.
as in:

A: it's in the bible
B: evidence?
A: AS I DID SAY - it's in the bible

any book demanding belief or authority on its own is utter bullshit

in the end 70ies a German Historiker a real authority of the dark ages wrote a biased book 'bout that 12 THOUSAND years.
lots of biased people said: a historic giant has put history right

he had been a historic giant (let's say 837 to 1102 AD)

The book 'bout 1933-1945 was utter bullshit
 

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as in:

A: it's in the bible
B: evidence?
A: AS I DID SAY - it's in the bible

any book demanding belief or authority on its own is utter bullshit

in the end 70ies a German Historiker a real authority of the dark ages wrote a biased book 'bout that 12 THOUSAND years.
lots of biased people said: a historic giant has put history right

he had been a historic giant (let's say 837 to 1102 AD)

The book 'bout 1933-1945 was utter bullshit
I used to debate Bible thumpers who said read it, then said I did not read it right.
 

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Wait... here a section from one of the book's 5star reviews on Amazon... I have always wonder how Grant was able to travel around the world, lose over 250,000 in a con, own a home in New York and New Jersey, gamble in poker games in CT. , and went to the( he had his own box) horse track and Cancio in Long Beach, NJ. All I know about his income, he had checks coming in from being a general and presidential. I do not think he was paid enough to do all the things I just listed off.

Snip... review of Leigh book ...

Grant himself exhibited dubious standards which, were a politician to act similarly today would surely end their career and possibly result in prison time. In 1866, prior to entering public service, Grant accepted a $30,000 home in Washington, D.C., raised through public subscription that netted the general $100,000 in all.

When Grant was ready to move into the White House, he initially agreed to a deal to sell the home for $40,000. Treasury Secretary designee Alexander Stewart led a subscription to purchase the home for $65,000 for Union General William T. Sherman. When the money was raised, Grant turned his back on the agreement with the first buyer and pocketed the $35,000 difference, according to Leigh.

Six months into his first term, Grant accepted a vacation home on the New Jersey coast. The 27-room structure cost $35,000, money raised by seven donors, including a Philadelphia newspaper owner and the owner of the Pullman Co., which manufactured railroad cars, according to Leigh.
Sounds like presentism to me, judging past actions by present standards instead of they standards of the historical period under review.

One reason I am reluctant to read it, because that is a fundamental error.
 

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Grant himself exhibited dubious standards which, were a politician to act similarly today would surely end their career and possibly result in prison time.
As I stated upon the first page of this thread..as to it being timely. History doesn't repeat, but it sure as Hell rhymes.


Insert N.J. in the summer and then "extract" Florida. Oh my, folks playing upon the taxpayer's dime. :eek:
 

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As I stated upon the first page of this thread..as to it being timely. History doesn't repeat, but it sure as Hell rhymes.


Insert N.J. in the summer and then "extract" Florida. Oh my, folks playing upon the taxpayer's dime. :eek:
the taxpayer ist handing nickles & dimes to the gov anymore :confused:
 

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If there was only one interpretation of everything where would be the fun of debate or those weird-ass cults? ;)
Debate is good, endless reading assignments not good.
 
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