Doesn't look like a majority to me. Let alone, a vast majority.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_senators_who_switched_parties
https://www.senate.gov/senators/SenatorsWhoChangedPartiesDuringSenateService.htm
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_senators_who_switched_parties
https://www.senate.gov/senators/SenatorsWhoChangedPartiesDuringSenateService.htm
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What about the House or those that were primaried and or then defeated by a Republican in the general election?Doesn't look like a majority to me. Let alone, a vast majority.
Don't get me wrong, I had an affinity for Nixon, the farm I grew up on was once owned by a certain Quaker Revolutionary War vet named Milhous and I visited his grave across the crick--closer to a river-- and can still find it.
That's called democracy in action, not the vast majority of Democrats switching parties to become Republicans, as claimed. Just sayin.....
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Hardly.OK, we are both dancin'.
But, there is more truth in mine. cuz what happened?
I said, without Republicans, Johnson would never have fired up his pen on The Civil Rights Act of 1964. A higher % of Republicans voted for the legislation than Democrats (in both houses). My statement is 100% true.
In an effort to minimize my statement, you claimed, "Because the vast majority switched parties and became Republicans." I don't believe the facts agree with your statement.
Fwiw, I don't dance. At least not until my alcohol level is right
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That would require more than 3 or 4 for me.After 3 or 4 I can be gotten to do zhis, then play some pool.
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Da da duh da de duh...That would require more than 3 or 4 for me.
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It the party of Trump but it was Pat Buchanan's run in 1990 that made Trump possible... like Goldwater made Reagan possible...
True but again this was all before Reagan rise to power in 1980 and before 1980 both parties had a healthy mixed of moderates in them. After Goldwater's run in 1964 the Republicans started shedding their more moderate members...
Agree, but it may be Trump's party but it was Pat Buchanan who planted the seeds that gave rise to Trump...
Link to a article about it... they both had the same platform themes... Buchanan may have lost in 1990 but he has the last laugh...
LINK: https://theweek.com/articles/853163/how-pat-buchanan-made-president-trump-possible
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William Bennett warned that Buchanan "cannot be allowed to hijack conservatism." Newt Gingrich said that Buchanan was "an extremist who is closer to David Duke than he is to the normal mainstream conservative." Several years later, in a 1999 article for National Review titled "A Conservative No More," Ramesh Ponnuru excommunicated Buchanan from the conservative movement.
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Bennett, who accused Buchanan of "flirting with fascism," supports Trump, who quoted Benito Mussolini, the founder of fascism, approvingly ("it's a very good quote"). So does Gingrich. And David Duke.
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His(Pat Buchanan) candidacies exposed fissures on the right and showed that there was an untapped market for nativism, protectionism, and isolationism.
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With communism defeated, Buchanan found new enemies: immigrants, multinational corporations, and "globalists" (among others). In the new culture war, Buchanan sided with "forgotten Americans" and "conservatives of the heart"
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the 1992 Republican National Convention, he(Pat Buchanan) praised "hard, tough men" who "don't read Adam Smith or Edmund Burke." Men like Trump, who loves the poorly educated and doesn't even read his own books.
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Buchanan criticized "democratist ideology" and "democracy worship" and yearned for an "American Caesar."
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Buchanan fretted about the paucity of "white Christians" and "non-Jewish whites" in the Ivy League and demanded affirmative action for "European-Americans." Trump signed an executive order aimed at protecting conservatives on college campuses.
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Both have described immigration as an "invasion." To stop it, Buchanan proposed a "double-link security fence." Trump proposed a wall.
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Buchanan said that Martin Luther King Jr. was "evil" and proclaimed "God bless Arizona" after the state refused to adopt King's birthday as a state holiday. As you may know, Trump has said racist-sounding things, too.
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Like Trump, Buchanan has been accused of racism — by Trump. In 1999, Trump said that Buchanan was "in love with Adolf Hitler." Asked about Buchanan on Meet the Press, Trump said, "He's a Hitler lover. I guess he's an anti-Semite. He doesn't like the blacks. He doesn't like the gays. It's just incredible that anybody could embrace this guy. And maybe he'll get 4 or 5 percent of the vote and it'll be a really staunch right wacko vote."
Trump later apologized to Buchanan. Not only did Buchanan forgive him, but he cheered him on. "I was elated, delighted that Trump picked up on the exact issues on which I challenged Bush," Buchanan told Politico.
As you can tell they are one in the same and I found another article on the topic which is a good read... by Politico...
The link...
Trump Is Pat Buchanan With Better Timing - POLITICO Magazine
WOW..... & I thought your last posts were ridiculous.
President Trump was made possible by, President Obama, & Hillary Clinton specifically. Had the DNC not cheated Bernie out of the nomination in '16, he'd be President right now imo.
To claim our President is a racist like Buchanan is laughable. Some of the most polarizing race baiters (Sharpton/Jackson/etc..) in our country loved the man, until he ran/became President. Donald Trump is no true conservative, & he's barely a Republican. He spent time as a registered Democrat, & as an Independent. He's donated plenty of money to the Clinton's, & other Dems previously.
What most people don't acknowledge, & the root of why many politicians on both sides loathe the man is, because for the longest time, there hasn't been a huge difference between the two parties nationally. They have been historically self serving, & not really too far apart. It's really only been in the last decade or so that, real differences have widened, & become glaringly obvious. Plenty of folks have profited from this. The status quo in the swamp benefits both parties. President Trump has disrupted a lot of that, & behind closed doors, is probably equally despised by many power brokers on both sides.
A better candidate than Clinton, & Trump would never have become President. Going forward, I don't believe the DNC has learned from their mistakes last go around, & will get punked next November. Time will tell.....
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Yes your overall narrative of the 2016 campaign is correct but your are not see the ideology that pushed Trump to head the Republican party..
Sadly, I do... Buchanan expose the nativist, the protectionist, an isolationist within the republican party... It is these three themes Trump used to take over the Republican party and the Whitehouse... We will put America first," Buchanan said in 1991. The previous year, he penned an essay for the National Interest titled "America First — and Second, and Third." See they are of the same cloak...
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I LoL ... When I read this line... Maybe,r but true...WOW..... & I thought your last posts were ridiculous.
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"Dog Whistles" are when someone doesn't actually say something, but someone on the opposite side of the political aisle needs to accuse them of racism, sexism, etc., so they attribute meaning to their words that isn't actually there. Find me some actual words, not "code language". Deal in inarguable, documented fact. Accusations of "dog whistles" hold no credibility with me, because it's just twisting words.
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My point is that it was LBJ a Democratic President and Grandson of a Confederate Calvary Trooper who passed the landmark 1965 Civil Rights Legislation that was opposed by the 1964 Republican Presidential Nominee Barry Goldwater.
After 1965 the white Southern Senators such has Helms and Thurmond became Republicans. White Southerners in large numbers post 1965 became Republicans.
LBJ himself acknowledged that the Democratic Party would loose white Southerners for a generation. LBJ was off by at least two generations.
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probably not but irelevant to the topic at hand, don't you think? - the thread is about a politically motivated mass shooting (americans have a tendency to overdue words, it certainly wasn't a massacre). has there been a politically motivated mass shooting in chicago (especially on a weekend) lately?Trump & the Republicans fault....
it's simply whataboutery and we can't have that, can we? if you want to discuss chicago shootings (al capone or otherwise) feel free to open a thread in the pertinent forum.
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Okay, Reagan was pandering to whites in the south with race anxiety issues(racist) by going to Philadelphia, MS to give the speech.