Best Post WWII Tanks

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So what tank was better between the T-34/85 and the US M-26 Pershing and the newer US M-46 vs the T-34/85 0or the Sheman M4 vs the T-34/85?
See Mark Felton's " Pershing vs T-34 Korea 1950" YouTube.
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M4 did surprisingly well which I found strange.
 

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M4 did surprisingly well which I found strange.
Not really training is everything. True some North Korean soldiers fought in the Soviet Army during WW2 or with Mao against the Japanese but I will speculate especially early in the Korean War most of the American tank crews were reservists that fought in WW2 as the post war military was small and somewhat poorly trained vs reservists with combat experience and post war training.
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M4 did surprisingly well which I found strange.
I don't know what gun the M4 had in Korea. I know at some point the Israeli Army had replaced the original American 76mm with the superior British made 105mm cannon.
If the American Army by 1950 had upgraded to an American 105 mm then that would give them a huge edge over the North Koreans.
 

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I don't know what gun the M4 had in Korea. I know at some point the Israeli Army had replaced the original American 76mm with the superior British made 105mm cannon.
If the American Army by 1950 had upgraded to an American 105 mm then that would give them a huge edge over the North Koreans.
76mm from what I have read.
 

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What thread is this on... https://www.businessinsider.com/isis-destroying-us-tank-active-protection-2016-11

A video showing an ISIS-fired, Russian-made anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) obliterating a US-made M1 Abrams tank illustrates the disturbing degree to which the US's tanks have fallen behind on the modern battlefield.

The video shows what Dan Goure of The Lexington Institute identifies as a Kornet ATGM striking the back of an Iraqi Abrams tank. The tank then spews a spectacular stream of fire, and though the video doesn't clearly show the fate of the crew, they may well have died.

Such an attack represents a big win for ISIS, a loss for the Iraqi people trying to reclaim the city of Mosul, and a glaring warning to US soldiers and Marines: Next time it could be you.

In Syria alone, eight different types of ATGMs threaten any armored division, the Congressional Research Service states. There's no reason to believe a more favorable situation exists in Iraq.
 

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What thread is this on... https://www.businessinsider.com/isis-destroying-us-tank-active-protection-2016-11

A video showing an ISIS-fired, Russian-made anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) obliterating a US-made M1 Abrams tank illustrates the disturbing degree to which the US's tanks have fallen behind on the modern battlefield.

The video shows what Dan Goure of The Lexington Institute identifies as a Kornet ATGM striking the back of an Iraqi Abrams tank. The tank then spews a spectacular stream of fire, and though the video doesn't clearly show the fate of the crew, they may well have died.

Such an attack represents a big win for ISIS, a loss for the Iraqi people trying to reclaim the city of Mosul, and a glaring warning to US soldiers and Marines: Next time it could be you.

In Syria alone, eight different types of ATGMs threaten any armored division, the Congressional Research Service states. There's no reason to believe a more favorable situation exists in Iraq.
The video is unavailable. Obviously ATGMs are nothing new they go back at least to 1972 .
The US military is sometimes despite massive funding slow to keep up with innovations.
Obviously if the Israelis and Russian's have APDs then some other nations or even Israeli or Russian company will try to defeat them.
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What thread is this on... https://www.businessinsider.com/isis-destroying-us-tank-active-protection-2016-11

A video showing an ISIS-fired, Russian-made anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) obliterating a US-made M1 Abrams tank illustrates the disturbing degree to which the US's tanks have fallen behind on the modern battlefield.

The video shows what Dan Goure of The Lexington Institute identifies as a Kornet ATGM striking the back of an Iraqi Abrams tank. The tank then spews a spectacular stream of fire, and though the video doesn't clearly show the fate of the crew, they may well have died.

Such an attack represents a big win for ISIS, a loss for the Iraqi people trying to reclaim the city of Mosul, and a glaring warning to US soldiers and Marines: Next time it could be you.

In Syria alone, eight different types of ATGMs threaten any armored division, the Congressional Research Service states. There's no reason to believe a more favorable situation exists in Iraq.
the M1 from the start on was considered to be the ideal target for heatseaking devices
 

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76mm from what I have read.
I think I read one source that the Israelis upgraded their Sherman's with a French 105mm gun not British. The Israelis loved the Centurion but the British ripped them off when the Israeli spent money on R&D for the new Challenger Tank and the British wouldn't sell it to them in order to sell more to the Arabs. That's one reason the Israelis built their own tank the Merkeva but it has an American engine.
Al Jezera has a documentary on the Merkeva.
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the M1 from the start on was considered to be the ideal target for heatseaking devices
At least the first generation of ATGMs were wire guided. Any tank will put out a lot of heat. Maybe there is such a thing as a heat seeking ATGM. Traditionally SAMs were heat seeking.
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At least the first generation of ATGMs were wire guided. Any tank will put out a lot of heat. Maybe there is such a thing as a heat seeking ATGM. Traditionally SAMs were heat seeking.
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through my sniper night optics I couldn't see a Leo II starting the engine across a certain strip of forest. I could hear him though.
Same place M1 standing there fore hours with engine out, still partly visible, exhaust grit (?)
 

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through my sniper night optics I couldn't see a Leo II starting the engine across a certain strip of forest. I could hear him though.
Same place M1 standing there fore hours with engine out, still partly visible, exhaust grit (?)
There is at least one heat seeking ATGM the US Javelin which came out in 1996. The Abrams may indeed put out a lot of heat. Not sure about the Russian ATGMs.
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I just read the WIki article on ATGMs. The Germans were working on them but they as far as we know were never used in combat in WWII.
The French at least per Wiki had the first operational ATGM the Nord SS 10 in 1955 which they sold to Israel and the US.
The article implies that they were used in combat in the 1950s but doesn't say where. I read one book that French ATGMs were used by the Israeli Army against light Egyptian tanks in the Sini Desert in 1973.
The first known use of the ATGMs were in Vietnam as far as I know possibility used in the War of Attrition between the Arabs and Israelis 1969 to 1971.
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The Sherman tanks actually saw quite a bit of Post WWII combat up until the early 1990s during the wars that broke up Yugoslavia.
The Israelis had by the mid 1950s through the early 1980s successfully upgraded their Sherman's with French 75mm high velocity guns and latter French 105mm guns plus more powerful engines and suspension systems from the US.
Wiki has one article on Israeli Sherman's and one on Sherman's post WWII.
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