How many deaths & violent crimes will it take..?

[Kirk's Raider's]

By what standard is California so bad.

Historical Real Median Household Income for California
Date US California
2017 $60,336 $71,805
2016 $58,856 $69,196
2015 $57,709 $66,737
2014 $55,613 $64,191
2013 $55,072 $63,441
2012 $54,948 $62,389
2011 $55,162 $62,573
2010 $56,388 $65,020
2009 $57,519 $67,494
2008 $59,382 $69,645
2007 $60,135 $71,048
2006 $59,051 $69,037
2005 $58,185 $67,480

Historical Real Median Household Income for Alabama
Date US Alabama
2017 $60,336 $48,123
2016 $58,856 $47,252
2015 $57,709 $46,317
2014 $55,613 $44,391
2013 $55,072 $45,163
2012 $54,948 $44,469
2011 $55,162 $45,237
2010 $56,388 $45,603
2009 $57,519 $46,372
2008 $59,382 $48,696
2007 $60,135 $48,063
2006 $59,051 $47,268
2005 $58,185 $46,404

It would be interesting to compare homelessness in Al vs Ca.
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[jgoodguy]

Median income is a useless measurement. We have a fair amount of billionaire's and multi millionaires so it skews the average.
You really need to come to California and see for yourself.
See if you can do a ride along with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department at say Firestone Station . They used to allow ride a lings not sure now.
Kirk's Raiders

I'd opine that it is like the Republican heaven of Alabama.

 

[jgoodguy]

It would be interesting to compare homelessness in Al vs Ca.
Kirk's Raiders

Well instead of speculation, you could look into it.

 

[5fish]

t would be interesting to compare homelessness in Al vs Ca.
Kirk's Raiders

Well instead of speculation, you could look into it.

From Hud? have to get to the end for maps and charts...

https://files.hudexchange.info/resources/documents/2018-AHAR-Part-1.pdf

 

[jgoodguy]

From Hud? have to get to the end for maps and charts...

https://files.hudexchange.info/resources/documents/2018-AHAR-Part-1.pdf

And adjust for the difference in population and land area.

 

[Kirk's Raider's]

I'd opine that it is like the Republican heaven of Alabama.

My pip

Well instead of speculation, you could look into it.

If you really want to know what California or any part of the world ultimately you need to see it for yourself.
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[Kirk's Raider's]

By what standard is California so bad.

Historical Real Median Household Income for California
Date US California
2017 $60,336 $71,805
2016 $58,856 $69,196
2015 $57,709 $66,737
2014 $55,613 $64,191
2013 $55,072 $63,441
2012 $54,948 $62,389
2011 $55,162 $62,573
2010 $56,388 $65,020
2009 $57,519 $67,494
2008 $59,382 $69,645
2007 $60,135 $71,048
2006 $59,051 $69,037
2005 $58,185 $67,480

Historical Real Median Household Income for Alabama
Date US Alabama
2017 $60,336 $48,123
2016 $58,856 $47,252
2015 $57,709 $46,317
2014 $55,613 $44,391
2013 $55,072 $45,163
2012 $54,948 $44,469
2011 $55,162 $45,237
2010 $56,388 $45,603
2009 $57,519 $46,372
2008 $59,382 $48,696
2007 $60,135 $48,063
2006 $59,051 $47,268
2005 $58,185 $46,404

I am sure during the Antebellum era Alabama had a high Median income. That didn't mean the slaves were living high off the hog.
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[jgoodguy]

I am sure during the Antebellum era Alabama had a high Median income. That didn't mean the slaves were living high off the hog.
Kirk's Raiders

Some figures would be nice.

 

[Viper21]

To be fair how would a Republican Mayor reduce crime?
Kirk's Raiders

It would take more than a Republican mayor. It would take some independent thinkers on the city councils as well. Most of these communities have been under one party rule, the Democratic party, for generations. Obviously, what they are doing isn't working. Their entire government is run by Dems. Not sure how anyone could say, their policies are good for their cities. Or that they aren't the problem...

 

[jgoodguy]

It would take more than a Republican mayor. It would take some independent thinkers on the city councils as well. Most of these communities have been under one party rule, the Democratic party, for generations. Obviously, what they are doing isn't working. Their entire government is run by Dems. Not sure how anyone could say, their policies are good for their cities. Or that they aren't the problem...

Generations ago, the Dems were the conservative party.

 

[5fish]

It would take more than a Republican mayor. It would take some independent thinkers on the city councils as well. Most of these communities have been under one party rule, the Democratic party, for generations. Obviously, what they are doing isn't working. Their entire government is run by Dems. Not sure how anyone could say, their policies are good for their cities. Or that they aren't the problem...

You making a false comparison... Many of those cities are growing but due to the inequality and the income inequality within our nation, people are being left behind... The Root of all the problems is wealth inequality which brings the social ills, crime, lack of economic mobility, and so forth...

The truth is its been the Republican party since the 1980s economic agenda has created this inequality within our society... It is not Democratic mayors but the Republican economic policies...

 

[Viper21]

You making a false comparison... Many of those cities are growing but due to the inequality and the income inequality within our nation, people are being left behind... The Root of all the problems is wealth inequality which brings the social ills, crime, lack of economic mobility, and so forth...

The truth is its been the Republican party since the 1980s economic agenda has created this inequality within our society... It is not Democratic mayors but the Republican economic policies...

Unreal. Could you explain what Republican economic policies have turned Baltimore into a shithole..? How about St Louis..? As I've already pointed out, both cities are run by Democrat mayors, & 100% Democrat city councils. The last Republican in charge of St Louis was 70 yrs ago, & the last Republican in charge of Baltimore was over 50yrs ago.

 

[jgoodguy]

You making a false comparison... Many of those cities are growing but due to the inequality and the income inequality within our nation, people are being left behind... The Root of all the problems is wealth inequality which brings the social ills, crime, lack of economic mobility, and so forth...

The truth is its been the Republican party since the 1980s economic agenda has created this inequality within our society... It is not Democratic mayors but the Republican economic policies...

Agree. The kool-aide of the neoliberal idea that greed is good and unfettered markets are inherently great.

In any case, many of the cherry-picked examples of cites are ones that have been economically devastated.

 

[jgoodguy]

So 50 years ago the GOP made Baltimore citizens so dang sick of Republicans they have not voted for them since.

 

[jgoodguy]

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[Viper21]

In any case, many of the cherry-picked examples of cites are ones that have been economically devastated.

Cherry picked..? I listed the top 5 cities in the US for murders. They are all run 100% by Democrats, most have been for decades. It doesn't require a ton of critical thinking, to connect the dots. They might consider choosing some different paths, from a policy standpoint in those cities. The Democrats in charge, haven't figured out how to keep those cities safe.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/mu...jK0Q5v3Kn3LcW5D7vabQcu8-_RdWftap1JY0F4KmkdErA

 

[jgoodguy]

Cherry picked..? I listed the top 5 cities in the US for murders. They are all run 100% by Democrats, most have been for decades. It doesn't require a ton of critical thinking, to connect the dots. They might consider choosing some different paths, from a policy standpoint in those cities. The Democrats in charge, haven't figured out how to keep those cities safe.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/mu...jK0Q5v3Kn3LcW5D7vabQcu8-_RdWftap1JY0F4KmkdErA