The 5000 Year Leap : A Miracle That Changed the World

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I think we are leaving off this list.... The 5000 Year Leap : A Miracle That Changed the World(Paperback)

I have not read this book and most likely will not and I remember it being promoted on the radio by the writer years back: I think his premise is off... He is selling his messaged to conservative and Christians...
WE (the world last a 1000 years during the dark ages) I think the birth of America has recapture those lost 1000 years... and maybe made up some form the first dark age Late Bronze Age collapse (1200–900 BCE). We have had two periods when mankind lost its way...

Here is its rational behind the book: From Amazon

In The 5000 Year Leap: A Miracle That Changed the World, Discover the 28 Principles of Freedom our Founding Fathers said must be understood and perpetuated by every people who desire peace, prosperity, and freedom. Learn how adherence to these beliefs during the past 200 years has brought about more progress than was made in the previous 5000 years. These 28 Principles include The Genius of Natural Law, Virtuous and Moral Leaders, Equal Rights--Not Equal Things, and Avoiding the Burden of Debt.

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This left me in an awkward predicament when I read the stuff that was new to me. I just didn't feel like I could trust him.
All told, this is a good book if the reader approaches it with the realization that Skousen was not a historian examining the record and trying to learn lessons from it. He was by training a lawyer and, as such, I think he approached this book knowing the arguments he wanted to make and picking those points from the historical record which supported his argument and either trivializing or altogether ignoring anything that didn't.


Principle 1 - The only reliable basis for sound government and just human relations is Natural Law.
Principle 2 - A free people cannot survive under a republican constitution unless they remain virtuous and morally strong.
Principle 3 - The most promising method of securing a virtuous people is to elect virtuous leaders.
Principle 4 - Without religion the government of a free people cannot be maintained.
Principle 5 - All things were created by God, therefore upon him all mankind are equally dependent, and to him they are equally responsible .
Principle 6 - All mankind were created equal.
Principle 7 - The proper role of government is to protect equal rights, not provide equal things.
Principle 8 - Mankind are endowed by God with certain unalienable rights.
Principle 9 - To protect human rights, God has revealed a code of divine law.
Principle 10 - The God-given right to govern is vested in the sovereign authority of the whole people.
Principle 11 - The majority of the people may alter or abolish a government which has become tyrannical.
Principle 12 - The United States of America shall be a republic.
Principle 13 - A Constitution should protect the people from the frailties of their rulers.
Principle 14 - Life and liberty are secure only so long as the rights of property are secure .
Principle 15 - The highest level of prosperity occurs when there is a free-market economy and a minimum of government regulations.
Principle 16 - The government should be separated into three branches .
Principle 17 - A system of checks and balances should be adopted to prevent the abuse of power by the different branches of government.
Principle 18 - The unalienable rights of the people are most likely to be preserved if the principles of government are set forth in a written Constitution.
Principle 19 - Only limited and carefully defined powers should be delegated to government, all others being retained by the people.
Principle 20 - Efficiency and dispatch require that the government operate according to the will of the majority, but constitutional provisions must be made to protect the rights of the minority.
Principle 21 - Strong local self-government is the keystone to preserving human freedom.
Principle 22 - A free people should be governed by law and not by the whims of men.
Principle 23 - A free society cannot survive as a republic without a broad program of general education.
Principle 24 - A free people will not survive unless they stay strong.
Principle 25 - "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations -- entangling alliances with none."- Thomas Jefferson, given in his first inaugural address.
Principle 26 - The core unit which determines the strength of any society is the family; therefore the government should foster and protect its integrity.
Principle 27 - The burden of debt is as destructive to human freedom as subjugation by conquest.
Principle 28 - The United States has a manifest destiny to be an example and a blessing to the entire human race.

Here is a link that may clarify these principles but I will warn you. They trying to sell the book too... https://nccs.net/products/the-5000-year-leap-a-miracle-that-changed-the-world-book
 

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I know this writer may not be famous and he has a slate in his message. But, His premise did America change the world for we are the Great Enlightenment experiment ever tried. If we change the world, how?
 

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I assume the members of this forum do not think We(America) did not change the world or advance mankind any further or faster because we came into existence… We have no followers of American exceptionalism on this forum.
 

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I assume the members of this forum do not think We(America) did not change the world or advance mankind any further or faster because we came into existence… We have no followers of American exceptionalism on this forum.
i could name a few ... but i won't
 

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I assume the members of this forum do not think We(America) did not change the world or advance mankind any further or faster because we came into existence… We have no followers of American exceptionalism on this forum.
You have me but You won't like my definition of exceptionalism

a three legged dog with one of the legs being of wood (and too short) balanced by being blind and deaf - well- would be exceptional
 

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exceptionalism
Did not our Declaration of Independence change the world?

Did not our Constitution inspire people around the world?

When became the hegemon in the 20th century liberal democracy for the world...

Did not our ideas advance the world?

If you measure our advance in years... How many?


name a few ..
Call them out... ... Lol
 

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Did not our Declaration of Independence change the world?

Did not our Constitution inspire people around the world?

When became the hegemon in the 20th century liberal democracy for the world...

Did not our ideas advance the world?

If you measure our advance in years... How many?




Call them out... ... Lol
Great nations come and great nations go.
The US has tremendous natural resources but is facing many tremendous challenges. The US has in the post WW2 era fought many pointless wars and is deep in debt. We have tremendous environmental problems and threats to our survivability .
We have a President openly musing about a Civil War if Congress does it's constitutional duty and investigates Trump's possible impeachable actions concerning the Ukraine.
Somehow in 2019 Rah Rah USA doesn't really describe us.
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Did not our Declaration of Independence change the world?

Did not our Constitution inspire people around the world?

When became the hegemon in the 20th century liberal democracy for the world...

Did not our ideas advance the world?

If you measure our advance in years... How many?




Call them out... ... Lol
The US didn't become a real democracy post Revolutionary War. Originally only property owning white males could vote.
The American Revolution certainly inspired many political thinkers but the reality did not always match the ideal.
Many European nations never had slavery and had greater economic equality and better health care then the US especially post WW2.
Certainly the US is a nation that the majority of it's citizens can not comfortably afford to retire to. Thank God for Armenia.
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We have a President openly musing about a Civil War if Congress does it's constitutional duty and investigates Trump's possible impeachable actions concerning the Ukraine.
Yeah, somehow our President, asking another country's President to look into possible corruption is an impeachable offense..? Yet, somehow the actual corruption (Biden's)... isn't a problem..??? Crazy. I scratch my head at this nonsense daily. Blows my mind. All this impeachment crap is just that, crap. It's also a diversion, as the cloth is being removed on some of the actual corruption committed by, & under, the previous administration.

Imagine for a second, if you were to take what transpired with Joe & Hunter Biden, & replaced the exact set of circumstances with Donald Trump & one of his sons. Trump & his son would've been indicted already. There are two sets of rules when it comes to Washington. That is being exposed at the moment, & more to come.
 

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1) Yeah, somehow our President, asking another country's President to look into possible corruption is an impeachable offense..?
2) Yet, somehow the actual corruption (Biden's)... isn't a problem..???
1) had been cleared again and again

2) the actual coruption answers to the name of Trump
- active pressing foreign countries to do dirt throwing for zhe Don
- passive invoicing the US for crimes goverment duties done / comitted at Trump property. Camp David unfortunately isn't an overprized golf spit äh spa
 

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, somehow our President, asking another country's President to look into possible corruption is an impeachable offense..?
There two whistleblowers now...
Trump was using his office to shake down the Ukraine Leader for personal gain. A clear violation of his Constitutional oath...
The Biden's have been clear more than once about Hunter's ties to the Ukraine but do not worry Ukraine is auditing the Biden's case along with 15 other old cases.
There is a paper trail the House is putting together that will hopefully leave to doubt...
These are the highlights so far...
 

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Yeah, somehow our President, asking another country's President to look into possible corruption is an impeachable offense..? Yet, somehow the actual corruption (Biden's)... isn't a problem..??? Crazy. I scratch my head at this nonsense daily. Blows my mind. All this impeachment crap is just that, crap. It's also a diversion, as the cloth is being removed on some of the actual corruption committed by, & under, the previous administration.

Imagine for a second, if you were to take what transpired with Joe & Hunter Biden, & replaced the exact set of circumstances with Donald Trump & one of his sons. Trump & his son would've been indicted already. There are two sets of rules when it comes to Washington. That is being exposed at the moment, & more to come.
You forgot the part about holding up military aid that Congress had approved for a nation that was actually engaged in combat against Russian forces.
Its up to the Ukrainians to investigate corruption on their own territory.
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1) had been cleared again and again

2) the actual coruption answers to the name of Trump
- active pressing foreign countries to do dirt throwing for zhe Don
- passive invoicing the US for crimes goverment duties done / comitted at Trump property. Camp David unfortunately isn't an overprized golf spit äh spa
Y'all hate our President so much, it affects your judgment. Just like the MSM.

Do you really believe Hunter Biden was paid 50 grand/month because he's an expert in Ukrainian Oil/gas....??? Seriously. He was paid that for access to his father, who was Vice President at the time.

You guys don't see anything wrong with Biden publicly bragging about withholding a BILLION dollars to Ukraine, unless they fire the prosecutor who was investigating the Company his son was "working for"....??? I mean, are you guys for real here ..?? There's video of Biden bragging about getting the guy fired. WOW.

"pressing foreign countries to do dirt throwing..." That's EXACTLY what the DNC did to Trump before he was even elected...!!! They hired bogus info from a foreign intelligence officer (Steele). Schumer, Pelosi, Clinton's, et al.... they ALL take foreign donations, hundreds of millions in bribes, I mean donations. Weird how nobody seems to have a problem with that but, oh know.... the President thinks it should be looked into..... IMPEACH HIM....hahahahahahaha.

I've read enough crazy stuff over the years but, this stuff takes the cake in my opinion. Y'all ignore mountains of corruption, & illegal activity, to the tune of Billions of dollars, for bogus crap because it's against a President you don't like. Unbelievable in my opinion. Absolutely crazy.

Instead of making up nonsense, the Dems would be better served to put forth a positive message, & appeal to the middle of the country. Might even consider coming up with some policies that people actually are interested in too. Only got 1 year till we have a big election again. Mark my words...... all of this crazy nonsense won't help them. Sure, nutjobs like Pelosi, & Schiff are in safe districts but, they are going to guarantee Trump gets re-elected. I will laugh my ass off too.
 

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Y'all hate our President so much, it affects your judgment. Just like the MSM.

Our judgement?
Do you really believe Hunter Biden was paid 50 grand/month because he's an expert in Ukrainian Oil/gas....??? S

$50,000 or $100,000 it seems to change every day.

I used to be like you, nonsense depends upon perspective. And much of that seems to depend upon a lack of it.

Expand your horizons. I did.
 

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You guys don't see anything wrong with Biden publicly bragging about withholding a BILLION dollars to Ukraine, unless they fire the prosecutor who was investigating the Company his son was "working for"....??? I mean, are you guys for real here ..?? There's video of Biden bragging about getting the guy fired. WOW.
This story has been twisted by the right. Biden in the video was telling the story where the whole western world wanted the AG of Ukraine fired because the AG was not fighting corruption within the country. The EU, IMF, World Bank, USA all wanted the AJ of Ukraine gone. The video promoted by the right shows Biden finishing the story where he does threaten the then President of Ukraine the world will withhold billions in aide if he does not fire his AG... I ask: The video is of Biden at a conference why would he brag about withholding aide to fire an AG to protect his son. He was there bragging about how America and the world got rid of a corrupt Ukraine AG...

You can fact check the video and the story online ...

Do you really believe Hunter Biden was paid 50 grand/month because he's an expert in Ukrainian Oil/gas....??? Seriously. He was paid that for access to his father, who was Vice President at the time.
Again, this has been investigated many times in the past nonthing was found or came of it. I agree the Ukraine oil company hired Hunter hoping it would give then access to the White House but no corrupt practices were ever found.
 

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Y'all hate our President so much
I don't hate Your President
hate is the last but one step of my interacting scale, I never hated anyone but two people I met made it dirctly to loathing (the last step)

since I indeed do loath - greed - nepotism - dumbness - dishonesty - inhumanity - cruelty etc
the PotUS might be involved with loathing (to be precise nearly every item of the list to qualifyfor loathing -he is not a child abuser as far as I know)

grab him by the twitter

Do you really believe Hunter Biden was paid 50 grand/month because he's an expert in Ukrainian Oil/gas....??? Seriously.
so do You realy belive Ivanka and her husband were voted into office, or are well known geniuses or is it just family business? (Nepotism / Corruption)
Hunter B. took foreign money and did not do what those foreigners wanted. He should be Your hero.
 

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.. He was one of the better characters on Babalyon 5... Their society was all about Nepotism /Corruption... and wanting to reenslave those lizard people...
narn, but the centauri had an interesting religion, too
 
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