The Law Will Not Save Us

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The Law Will Not Save Us

The impeachment proceedings provide an excellent opportunity to remind people of something they ought to know, but perhaps have forgotten: The rule of law exists in this country to conceal politics. Perhaps that is not its only purpose, but it is certainly the most important. Those who want to change the status quo do well to remember that the law will not save us if the politics are against us. This is not hyperbole, nor is it necessarily a bad thing, but it does require some explanation, and the best way to explain is to offer a few illustrations.

This form of legal religiosity finds its purest expression in the claim that a particular legal argument meets with the approval of the Founders (hallowed be their name). When someone really wants to signal that their view of the law is superior to all others, the trump card (dare we say) is to claim the approval of the Founders. Why else would we capitalize the word? The next time you hear someone say, “The Founders believed …” substitute, “Listen unto me for I have reviewed the entrails and have divined the mind of the Founders.” We worship their words and battle over their meaning. Even if they did not speak to our precise situation, we find it necessary to prove that, had the Founders faced a quintessentially 21st-century question, like whether the police can search your cellphone without a warrant, they would’ve agreed with us.

Some may be shocked at what I have written. They still worship the law, and believe there is a there there. I have given up on that fantasy. Yet that does not mean all is lost. It simply means that the President and I agree, if only in one respect: All that matters is what happens at the ballot box. The law will not save this country.​
 

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A side trip to the wonderful world of gun control. I used to love to debate gun control, both sides, sometimes at once. Then I realized that law and statistics do not matter. Only politics.
 

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A side trip to the wonderful world of gun control. I used to love to debate gun control, both sides, sometimes at once. Then I realized that law and statistics do not matter. Only politics.
Actually no. Criminals and terrorists will always have guns . The political question is do law abiding citizens want to be brutalized by criminals while the patiently await for the police to come if they even bother to show up.
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Actually no. Criminals and terrorists will always have guns . The political question is do law abiding citizens want to be brutalized by criminals while the patiently await for the police to come if they even bother to show up.
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Your opinion is carefully noted, thanks.

The people are sovereign to do stupid things.
 

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Your opinion is carefully noted, thanks.

The people are sovereign to do stupid things.
Again not opinion facts. It is an opinion that the police will always show up in the nick of time. It's a fact that there is gun crime in the UK and Western Europe that have strict gun control.
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Again not opinion facts. It is an opinion that the police will always show up in the nick of time. It's a fact that there is gun crime in the UK and Western Europe that have strict gun control.
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  1. it's an opinion that they won't
  2. wan't to compare stats?
 

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Again not opinion facts. It is an opinion that the police will always show up in the nick of time. It's a fact that there is gun crime in the UK and Western Europe that have strict gun control.
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I agree that if a woman buys a gun for self-protection, the police will be too late to save her when her significant male other kills her with it.
 

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I'd rather have a gun, & not need it than, need one, & not have it.

Mine must all be defective because, they've never hurt anyone.
I'd rather have a hammer rather than a wrench when I need a hammer.
 

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For the hundredth time no one hear apparently heard of Northern Ireland or the Baider Meingof Brigade.
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baader meinhof bande aka rote armee fraction as well as the participants in the troubles were terrorists. you think a .38 in the nightstand helps you with that?
Apparently your not aware of the actual response time that American Police have admitted to.
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then train them adequately. better and bigger policemen in less time and for less money obviously doesn't work.
 
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Assuming that criminals have guns, and the crime rate is high in the 'hood' with lots of criminals assuming everyone is armed, then the idea that mere arming deters crime seems to have a problem.
 

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Assuming that criminals have guns, and the crime rate is high in the 'hood' with lots of criminals assuming everyone is armed, then the idea that mere arming deters crime seems to have a problem.
Ask the honest people in the Hood if they want to surrender their guns because they think the local police will adequately defend them.
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baader meinhof bande aka rote armee fraction as well as the participants in the troubles were terrorists. you think a .38 in the nightstand helps you with that?

then train them adequately. better and bigger policemen in less time and for less money obviously doesn't work.
We can't have bigger and better police officers. Have you ever heard of Affermative Action?
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We can't have bigger and better police officers. Have you ever heard of Affermative Action?
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your cops weren't all that good before that either, were they? they needed to beef up the (heavily armed) fbi to get dillinger et al. so please spare me that nonesense about minorities not being up to it.
 
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Ask the honest people in the Hood if they want to surrender their guns because they think the local police will adequately defend them.
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Thanks for your opinion. All I know is where there are a lot of guns there is a lot of crime. Your claim that guns deter crime appears to have exceptions.
 

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Thanks for your opinion. All I know is where there are a lot of guns there is a lot of crime. Your claim that guns deter crime appears to have exceptions.
Nonsense.

There were at least 50,000 guns, & approaching 1,000,000 rounds of ammunition, all packed within a couple blocks from the Capital in Richmond, last Monday. No crimes..... o_O
 

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Nonsense.

There were at least 50,000 guns, & approaching 1,000,000 rounds of ammunition, all packed within a couple blocks from the Capital in Richmond, last Monday. No crimes..... o_O
Can I have you on record that populations with large numbers of guns have no crime over time?
 
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