She never claimed she was an Indian...??? Maybe this is fake..?!
So I can't believe you don't know what you're doing, genuinely I know you do. Cherry picking random things and twisting it into the false exaggerated narrative you placed. I specifically (and clearly) was talking about her DNA results and releasing those in which she claims Native American ancestry not to be Native American herself. Again you must know this.
I never argued she never claimed being Indian in her entire life, that is not what she's claiming now and you didn't address my point
at all by ignoring the massive amount of information and investigations out there where they again interview and consul massive amounts of former colleagues, employers, etc. I can only guess you literally went out cherry picking for anything that fit your narrative and ignored the
massive amount of things that don't. If you don't know this then please research this, a great article on this that is the most comprehensive here:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/na...complicated/wUZZcrKKEOUv5Spnb7IO0K/story.html
This article points out why your last image doesn't mean what you think it means.
Your #1 image is valid and again doesn't contradict the context of our conversation, which is the present claims including those surrounding the DNA. She has publicly apologized for the few times she mentioned it in the past. I'm sure there's some other random ones that people haven't even uncovered, on the other hand there are a
lot of times she didn't in fact. At the time she believed what many Americans do, their family stories about Native ancestry. Being involved in genealogy I can't even tell how many times I've heard these same stories, including my own. In fact some of the DNA i found was in one of the areas of ancestry in which I had no stories lol. It's a naive thing many White (and Black) Americans do, including Warren in the past (which again she mentioned). I'll add (and if you read the articles pointing to it you probably know this already) this is in fact a more recently discovered piece of data. Likely new to me (like I said I spent time in the past looking into this and found it mostly simple mistakes and again countless evidence that still stands it didn't really benefit her in any provable way). This is something that should be criticized (though not as sharply as people are, I elaborate that on the bigger paragraph below so I won't get into it, most people talking on this don't understand tribal membership rules, or understand being "Native American" is in fact hard to specify) but that's it. She made a mistake on a document in the 80s. This doesn't discount again the countless evidence that this didn't benefit her (and the fact that it only recently came out pretty much supports that even this was something largely irrelevant on some paperwork).
Your #2 image is basically what I pointed out myself, where in various directory references she included she had Native American heritage and it was included in various other resulting articles etc.
Your #3 image... This probably contradicts your point. You realize under race she checked "Other" and the other options were "Black" "Oriental" and "Mexican American." If anything this looks like specifically asking if you are a minority that probably qualifies under some sort of equal opportunity scenario, "Other" being for all that don't fit. The image just doesn't include enough information (but again that would be the most likely assumption based purely on what was spliced into that image).
Additionally not all tribes require a specific blood quantum. The Cherokee Nation for example (the big federally one in Oklahoma, vs the Eastern Cherokee tribe and various other smaller ones) doesn't. Not sure if he's still the Chief, but a few years ago the Principal Chief John Baker was only 1/32nd Cherokee himself. The Principal Chief during the Trail of Tears period was John Ross who was only 1/8th himself (and favored the support of the older more pure blood Cherokees in fact). What they require is an ancestor on a specific role, which Warren hasn't claimed and doesn't have. So singling out DNA being small is actually a misnomer regarding tribes, some do but others don't require it. Keep in mind there are many different tribes as well. Many aren't federally recognized but are indeed recognized by States. It gets very complicated fast if your familiar with this area, again something I've spent quite a bit of time researching myself. Many tribe members (again even in the biggest federally recognized Cherokee Nation) look White and have similar levels of blood to Warren. This doesn't make them not Native and certainly doesn't mean she can't represent her ancestry. Many of the major tribes that survived longer did so by intermixing. This resulted in very early European blood being introduced and that often increased over time.
You are trying to find anything to attack her on, don't believe the propaganda, like anyone there are things to criticize her in this but they aren't what you are claiming and they're not what one side is pitching them as. It's amazed me at how many people have responded with complete ignorance regarding what her DNA test was and what she said it was, most of those people are completely ignorant to the entire range of subjects regarding it.
I've never said that there weren't higher rates of poverty among black folks. I'm challenging that our country is racist against black folks.
Then you agree poverty is racially biased in America. Even if one were to believe racism ended at some date magically, let's say 1980. The poverty rates have never equalized, ever. So the heritage of racism is still an inherited cost on Black people. This was a good portion of what I've been specifically talking about.
No. Said like a person who could've ended up in prison, or a perpetual state of poverty myself. As an adult, I'm a product of the decisions I've made in life. Both good, & bad. Is anybody else responsible for their own plight in life..? At what point do people become responsible for the decisions they make ? Lots of people make bad decisions, or suffer from the bad decisions of their parents. Plenty overcome them, regardless of their skin tone. Having said that plenty don't. Yet, it doesn't make our country racist because some people, or groups of people don't.
Mobility stats show the reality. There are a lot of very hard working poor people that stay poor. There are a lot of lazy bad decision making rich people that stay rich.
Also I'm sorry but you aren't a product of
just the decisions you made in life. You could get struck by lightning, get hit by a car, etc. Even if you are extremely safe your life could have ended for various reasons completely out of your control. Yes plenty of people pay the consequences from their bad decisions, but there are countless things outside of our control. We have an influence for sure, I too worked hard to get out of the poverty I was raised in. I saw plenty of people who failed to do so and didn't. Though plenty work hard and make equally good decisions but are just unlucky. Something like the Great Recession that wasn't that long ago is a stark reminder of this. I was fortunate that the industry I chose left me in high demand and getting raises while others were laid off and met with relentless competition in looking for more work. Things happen and industries rise an fall, regional situations rise and fall, natural disaster can hit, random accidents, etc.
I stand by my point, you said you believe in financial privilege while plenty of rich people have the luxury of denying it. Likewise when you are the dominant race it's easy to dismiss racism.
That disparity, doesn't automatically default to racism, or a government that discriminates against folks based on their skin tone.
No but it is here at
least because of a history of racism. Black people have always been far poorer in America and in much of history it
is because of racism. Poverty is often inherited. People who break out of it are far fewer than those that don't. Like it or not but racism is why that stat is still slanted. Stopping the racism doesn't dramatically correct it, that would take deliberate action.
Again I still disagree racism doesn't exist. I mean I grew up with racism around me (and within me) in my White conservative group (despite going to a school that was equal white and hispanic but with a small portion of african american too). Denying racism is part of that racism. It doesn't mean every White person is racist, it doesn't even mean that all uses of the label of racism are valid. Though denying it does in fact damage our society in a way that's easy for us White people to ignore.