Statement by Texas governor about border

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Here is their argument is a peasants' invasion more like they are looking for a safe harbor and a job. These are the parts of the Constitution they are referencing to act badly. I just want to point out that most drugs come through normal ports of entry. @Tom , You have to ask yourself who is going to take care of you in your old age. It is going to a person from another nation if you do not let them in then who will be your caregiver...

Article I
  • Section 10 Powers Denied States
    • Clause 3 Acts Requiring Consent of Congress
    • No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
Article IV
Section 4
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
 

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Fentanyl Deaths

Texas
2019 - 317
2020 - 891
2021 - 1,648
2022 - 2,192
2023 - 1,511


The numbers went down in 2023. Maybe because Texas is doing something to stop it? Can't say the Feds are doing anything...
 

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The numbers went down in 2023. Maybe because Texas is doing something to stop it? Can't say the Feds are doing anything...
as i don't live in texas i'm not qualified to an opinion
 

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Fentanyl Deaths

Texas
2019 - 317
2020 - 891
2021 - 1,648
2022 - 2,192
2023 - 1,511


The numbers went down in 2023. Maybe because Texas is doing something to stop it? Can't say the Feds are doing anything...
What is your point? What is the Texas Law enforcement doing to stop, besides allowing a woman and her children to drown in the Rio Grand? Texas is picking the wrong fight if they want to stop Fentanyl.

It's Americans who are bringing in the Fentanyl... This a CATO report a conservative think tank... You need to get out of your confirmation bias bubble and think!! for yourself...


An NPR‐Ipsos poll last week found that 39 percent of Americans and 60 percent of Republicans believe, “Most of the fentanyl entering the U.S. is smuggled in by unauthorized migrants crossing the border illegally.” A more accurate summary is that fentanyl is overwhelmingly smuggled by U.S. citizens almost entirely for U.S. citizen consumers.

In 2021, U.S. citizens were 86.3 percent of convicted fentanyl drug traffickers—ten times greater than convictions of illegal immigrants for the same offense.

Over 90 percent of fentanyl seizures occur at legal crossing points or interior vehicle checkpoints, not on illegal migration routes, so U.S. citizens (who are subject to less scrutiny) when crossing legally are the best smugglers.

Here is some other information for you...

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Geneva/Berlin/San José – The International Organization for Migration (IOM) documented 686 deaths and disappearances of migrants on the US-Mexico border in 2022, making it the deadliest land route for migrants worldwide on record.
 

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Here is their argument is a peasants' invasion more like they are looking for a safe harbor and a job.
Seriously, you can't actually believe this...
 

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Seriously, you can't actually believe this...
We need to define the word invasion and it seems you can use that word to describe the border or not...

It's called emigration... You know man has done this from the dawn of time moving to more productive lands, or to get away from the neighbors, or looking for a better opportunity. You know your ancestors emigrated to the United States for a better life. You are saying these peasants from Central America are not allowed to find a better life here in America. I ask Why do we have the right to pull up the latter after us and deny others the chance at a better life?

You know they are not the Sea People of the Bronze Age then you could argue that it is an invasion that needs to be stopped but in antiquity, only the Egyptians turned back the Sea Peoples and all others fell to their swords.
 

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We need to define the word invasion and it seems you can use that word to describe the border or not...
can we agree that these guys were preparing for an invasiom



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US Border Patrol not going to cut Texas' razor wire fence...
The Republicans are not going to follow the rule of law. SCOTUS rulings are law so Republicans are doing an Andrew Jackson by ignoring SOCTUS. I want to remind you we are a land of laws.

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Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R) said Monday the state will continue to build razor wire and other fencing on the U.S.-Mexico border, despite a Supreme Court order last week allowing federal law enforcement to tear down state-erected barriers.

“We are putting up wire, Martha, everywhere we can,” he told Fox News’s Martha MacCallum on Monday. “We will continue. We will not stop. If they cut it, we will replace it.”
 
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