Brexit: Can Anyone Take the Wheel From Johnson?

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At best your assertion is speculative. One can not prove an unknown.
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I must disagree. That zhe Austrian corporal was a strategic mOron is largely undisputed. Esp. as testified to by many of his own General Staff, some of which tried to kill the bästard.
 

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I must disagree. That zhe Austrian corporal was a strategic mOron is largely undisputed. Esp. as testified to by many of his own General Staff, some of which tried to kill the bästard.
True but a case of a day late and a dollar short. By the time of the assassination attempt in 1944 it was far to late to save Germany.
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True but a case of a day late and a dollar short. By the time of the assassination attempt in 1944 it was far to late to save Germany.
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What is your definition of Zäving Germany? ;)

Others had tried before.
 

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What is your definition of Zäving Germany? ;)

Others had tried before.
If by some miracle one of the much earlier attempts to assassinate Hitler had succeeded that might of saved Germany. By 1944 it was just to late. When one kicks a big Bear in the balls as the Germans did in June 1941 there are then two options
1. Kill the bear
2. Run like hell
The Germans and their Axis allies couldn't do either so they just had to take their punishment.
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that's nonesense The III. Reich would have beaten any enemy if it had had war with only this enemy (including the US of A)
No... at first, they would have given the USA a bloody nose but once the USA got mobilized it would have had been over... I want to point out the USA fought a two-front war and won both... I also want to point out our nation never reached full mobilization by the time the war of over... We had excess capacity still to use...
 

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No... at first, they would have given the USA a bloody nose but once the USA got mobilized it would have had been over... I want to point out the USA fought a two-front war and won both... I also want to point out our nation never reached full mobilization by the time the war of over... We had excess capacity still to use...

The arsenal of Democracy...if we can keep it.
 

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testified to by many of his own General Staff, some of which tried to kill the bästard.
If I remember right the Germany army planned seven assassinations of Hitler. Many were called off at the last minute...
 

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We are overspending on the arsenal of Democracy... and five are our allies... our defensive industrial complex is nothing more than the Republics white middle-class jobs program... It's not about defense it's about jobs...

https://www.crfb.org/blogs/us-spends-more-its-military-next-10-countries-combined


I shall leave the economics of gub' mint job "programs" to @jgoodguy . That is...in the form of tariffs its gets, ahh, complicated. ;)

p.s. I hope you didn't plant any soybeans this year. I know there ain't nearly as much as last year, around here.
30 years to build the Chinese market, and then fe-ucked in 2 seasons. SAD.


"WE is WINNING!!"
 

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I shall leave the economics of gub' mint job "programs" to @jgoodguy . That is...in the form of tariffs its gets, ahh, complicated. ;)
I just want to remind all defense spending does not create wealth it only redistributes wealth. They may create a tangible item but the item does not create wealth only a cost wealth...


.s. I hope you didn't plant any soybeans this year. I know there ain't nearly as much as last year, around here.
30 years to build the Chinese market, and then fe-ucked in 2 seasons. SAD.
No , I avoided soybeans and bought a pig farm... Oh sh-t...
 

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I just want to remind all defense spending does not create wealth it only redistributes wealth. They may create a tangible item but the item does not create wealth only a cost wealth...
Good news,
The Chinese have a bad case of African Swine flu so they have to kill most their pigs.
Bad news,
Not every cloud has a silver lining African Swine flu doesn't respect national borders.
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No , I avoided soybeans and bought a pig farm... Oh sh-t...
 

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I just want to remind all defense spending does not create wealth it only redistributes wealth. They may create a tangible item but the item does not create wealth only a cost wealth...

Just t be fair the US got a lot of help. The Soviet Army tied down most of the German and even Italian Army. The British Army arguably killed more Japanese then the American military.
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No , I avoided soybeans and bought a pig farm... Oh sh-t...
No... at first, they would have given the USA a bloody nose but once the USA got mobilized it would have had been over... I want to point out the USA fought a two-front war and won both... I also want to point out our nation never reached full mobilization by the time the war of over... We had excess capacity still to use...
 

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Since our aero-space and defense industries have led the world in technological innovation at least since WW2 are you suggesting that diversity for diversity sake is a good thing or should we still try to hire the best and brightest in cutting edge jobs. BTW, you can add the entire tech sector to the same mix.
 

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Since our aero-space and defense industries have led the world in technological innovation at least since WW2 are you suggesting that diversity for diversity sake is a good thing or should we still try to hire the best and brightest in cutting edge jobs. BTW, you can add the entire tech sector to the same mix.
Ironically it was an ex Nazi scientist Werner Von Braun that actually lobbied for more African Americans in the space program. There was a recent movie about the importance of African American women in the 1960s era space program.
FDR had to sign an executive order to equalize pay in the defense industry during WWII.
America was never color blind about merit.
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Ironically it was an ex Nazi scientist Werner Von Braun that actually lobbied for more African Americans in the space program. There was a recent movie about the importance of African American women in the 1960s era space program.
FDR had to sign an executive order to equalize pay in the defense industry during WWII.
America was never color blind about merit.
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Apparently NASA didn’t get the memo. Mission Control for the 2012 landing of the Mars Rover Discovery.

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